Monday, 29 September 2014

Fighting the new Undead or how to die horribly and still have fun...

Looks like i'm going to be outnumbered... 

Nurgleprototype being all ethereal as he deploys

Went up against Nurgleprototype and i am still licking my wounds. He was using the new undead rules combined TK and VC superforce. We went for a 3k pitched battle and the 50% characters. He did not use any of the Nagash Special characters but gee wizz it was a tough battle...

I was practicing taking nice photos of deployment but i failed big time... wrong lens, bad light blah blah oh well next time... Here is my army for this battle:

Chaos Lord, Mark of Tzeentch, Third Eye of Tzeentch, Disc of Tzeentch , Hellfire Sword, Enchanted Shield, Talisman of Endurance,

Daemon Prince, Chaos armour, Daemon of Slaanesh, Daemonic Flight, Lore of Slaanesh, Wizard Level 4, Chaos Familiar, Scaled Skin, Soul Feeder, Charmed Shield, Dragonbane Gem, Sword of Striking

Chaos Sorcerer, Lore of Tzeentch, Mark of Tzeentch, Wizard Level 2, Disc of Tzeentch, Channeling Staff, Dragonhelm,Talisman of Protection

Exalted Hero, Battle Standard Bearer, Mark of Tzeentch, Shield, Daemonic Mount Talisman of Preservation, Warrior Bane


Chaos Chariot MOK

8x Chaos Troll Additional hand weapons, Throgg is here

9x Chaos Troll Additional hand weapons, Hortennse bsb is here


3x Skullcrushers with Ensorcelled weapons

3x Skullcrushers with Ensorcelled weapons

So things i learnt:

Never rely on the hellcannon ;) take 2 or none. He was just a combat monster all game, kept going crazy (i still love him, just remember it is not a sure bet to even fire, they are a tough monster in  Hand to Hand though so all is not lost, deployment is key with this guy)...

Keep dispel dice for doom and darkness dispel... 2 terrorghiests screaming at your DP while hexed is bad news... they wiped him out fast

The new summon lore is deadly. Terrorghiests, monstrous infantry etc etc. I just couldn't keep up... real hardcore

Throgg can kill a kitted out Vampire Lord. Save your breath spew for when it counts. One round, dead Vampire Lord on his ghost wagon thing.

I overcompensated for ethereal. Better to have it and not need it. A savvy raiser of the dead can just clusterfuck your units with unkillable unit matchups that he can raise... the horror...

Horde with tk characters sharing ws and the mask of "never use bsb or general leadership" really sucks when you eventually kill all the summoned legions and get into combat...

Undead still die as fast as they always did but now they will have more... way more...

A terrorghiest at full wounds can delete a unit of skullcrushers

Don't get too cheerful when you kill a terrorghiest... he can just summon another one...

It is possible to roll ballistic skill and extra armour on a 1+ character on the eye of the gods table

Tzeentch missiles are too random to kill a terrorghiest in 1 round with 2 spells

Killy tzeentch lord with 4++ with reroll 1's, disc and hellfiresword is great at wiping out chaff and full units of undead troops. Very valuable in this matchup.

Trolls are super effective against undead. ITP rocks. Problem is their low int. My mate had a backup death caster lv2 with purple sun
.. this meant i was forced to use a lot of dispel dice protecting the trolls. This lead to uncontested summons and the nastiest spell with a scream list.... doom and darkess....

1 Khorne chariot can hold off against a big unit of basic troops but they need help to wipe them out

Keep a tack of the enemy summons tokens

I got floored this battle. I think i ran a reasonably hard and cheesy list and from the beginning things went upside down. If you don't kill the 2 mandatory terrorghiests tgere will be more... while you try and kill them the summoners are doing their thing. This army was a blast to play against and it was great to run a Slaanesh choir bomber with a hellfire sword tzeentch disc lord. Lots of fun.. i just have to work out how to beat them :)

Vantraxx the Thrice Cursed

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